We had a blast

The first Sales Engineering Finland meetup was held on Tuesday 24th February 2015. It was a great success with 20 nice participants, good discussions and two thought provoking presentations from Jarkko Kurvinen on how to build thought leadership and Severi Hämäri on rhetorical Kurt-Charlotte analysis of customer (you can find Severi’s presentation from his blog). Big thanks goes also to our sponsor Knowit Oy for the venue and refreshments.

Sales Engineering Finland is a network of engineers and subject matter experts in or interested in sales. Let’s grasp the opportunity of the paradigm shift in sales and marketing and lead the way in change of attitude towards selling in Finland. Join now to keep updated on the next steps.

It was an excellent start for Sales Engineering Finland. Let’s keep the ball rolling; please share your thoughts for future activities in our discussion board and let us know if you e.g. would like to give a presentation at our next meetup or if your company could sponsor us a venue. We also have a new website at salesengfi.org and Twitter hashtag #salesengfi.

Happy selling!


Welcome to the first #SEF meetup

Image by Martin Fisch (Flickr)
Image by Martin Fisch (Flickr)

Welcome to the first Sales Engineering Finland Meetup which will be held 24th February 2015 at Knowit Oy (Tehtaankatu 27-29 D, Helsinki) at 6-8pm.

We have pleasure to have two interesting guests giving us speeches. After and in between the speeches we’ll have good time for discussion and networking.

The Agenda

Janne Korhonen: Opening Words for Sales Engineering Finland

Janne at LinkedIn and Twitter.

1. Jarkko Kurvinen: How to build thought leadership

Jarkko Kurvinen, Chief Marketing Officer and Content Strategist in marketing company Plutoni. Jarkko is a passionate marketing evangelist and advocate for content marketing, social businesses and digital revolution. He is working with varying small and medium-sized companies to meet their business objectives. To keep himself busy, Jarkko is also the author of the books Blogimarkkinointi, a book dealing with blog marketing, and Mielipidejohtaja, his newest piece about thought leadership.

Jarkko at LinkedIn and Twitter.

2. Severi Hämäri: How to find sweet spots in customer’s thinking? Introducing some ancient but useful rhetoric tools

Severi Hämäri is the teacher in charge of School of Rhetoric, rhetoric, mathematics and philosophy teacher and PhD student. He is preparing thesis on the philosophy of language. 

Severi at the blog of Schoolf of Rhetoric andTwitter.

Please register yourself for the Sales Engineering Finland meetup here.


Sales Engineering Finland

Creative Commons Attribution 2.0, original from darkday

Selling has changed. Today, it’s less about cold calling and hard closing and more about providing true value. Customers are doing the first two-thirds of their buying process online, and the Internet has equalized the information asymmetry between buyers and sellers.

One could be forgiven for thinking that the demand for selling has come crashing down. Actually, the opposite is true. As Daniel Pink put it: “In today’s world we’re all salespeople, selling is human.” Even if we’re not in a direct sales role, a big share of our work is persuading, influencing, and convincing others.

In this new transparent world, a vendor with genuine interest in helping customers, standing by them, and sharing insights will be successful. This is an excellent opportunity for engineers and subject matter experts to stand out.

Unfortunately, we still see selling as sleazy, cheesy, and slimy. Finland has superior engineers, but without sales and marketing, we will become an economy of subsidiaries. This is a well-understood fact: the last organization to come out with it was the Federation of Finnish Technology Industries.

But change doesn’t happen top down. It will start from the grassroots level by individuals who have adopted the new mindset and will lead the way. And as in many phenomena, the forerunners will get the best harvest.

That’s why I founded Sales Engineering Finland. It is a peer-to-peer networking group for engineers and subject matter experts in, or interested in, sharpening sales skills. There is no organization or hidden agenda behind the group, and everyone is welcome to participate.

Check out Sales Engineering Finland at Meetup.com and spread the word!

BTW, if you’re interested in speaking at an event, sponsoring a venue, sharing new ideas, or supporting us in any other way, please contact me.


Selling has changed, and we should reconsider our biased view of it

Always Be Closing
Screenshot from the movie Glengarry Glen Ross

There is no need for business to business salespeople anymore: “We let all our salespeople go and it didn’t affect our sales at all” is a story we hear more and more. And there are good reasons to think like this.

If customers have issues, they can do their own research online. The Internet is full of information that can help them understand problems and learn how others are solving them. Customers can attend webinars, download white papers, discuss their problems with other people, and collect opinions. In the best case, when customers have made their decision, they can finalize the deal online.

Thus, it is no surprise that it is getting harder and harder for salespeople to get customer meetings. In the experience of most customers, the typical salesperson doesn’t add any value to their decision-making process. Why should a customer meet with a self-interested salesperson who asks irrelevant questions, gives boring presentations, and provides minimal insights? Customers can get better service online.

This shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. As a seller, you need to engage online so that you are visible in customers’ search queries, discussions and recommendations. Let customers do the first two-thirds of the buying process themselves and find you; when they do, be ready to serve them and provide value.

And this doesn’t mean that selling is not required anymore or that passive waiting can be considered as a strategy. You still need to be proactive in opening the dialogue and keeping it going. However, make sure that you provide value in every step of the process and expect customer to be generally well-informed.

Now we are getting to the inspiration for this blog post: Juuso Myllyrinne, with his excellent insights into the Finnish bias in regards to branding, reminded me of how attached we Finns are to the notion of the heroic salesperson’s role in the selling process. Instead of genuinely being interested in understanding and helping customers with their issues we still yearn to be, or hire, this epic figure who can open any door and close any deal for our product or service. And as Finns we think we are bad at this.

But that approach to sales is finished. We as Finns don’t have to excel at it anymore. The future of sales lies in customer focused service: adding value, communicating it and making buying easy. Finnish engineering culture provides an excellent basis for this approach to sales. We are competent and trustworthy. We just need to open up, engage, and focus on the customer.